So I went to my first Bible Study I’ve been to in a while.. I went to the Lutheran Church down the road with a friend . I’m glad I went. We were holding a focused discussion onBaptism with references to the Bible that I feel safe to consider as relevant and in context.
Coming to the study was helpful in many ways: learned some new vocabulary, learned more about Lutheran dogma, it provided me with a good community to talk about Christianity with, it helped me to clarify my own stances, and more importantly, I’m progressing in knowing God.I feel that I have to know him a sufficient amount before I can allowmyself to truly love Him.
I’m ecstatic with my growing familiarity of the Bible. Six months ago, I couldn’t tell you where any of the books were located in relation to each other, with the exception of Genesis. I couldn’t even tell you what each of the books were about except for Genesis, again, and Exodus. Last night proved to me that I’m getting better. I still had trouble locating a handful of the books, but if I didn’t know a good portion of the Bible, then I wouldn’t have been able to keep up.
I did have a few problems with the meeting, though. A few of the beliefs concerning, but no exclusive to, Baptism, Holy Supper, and the Second Coming were incongruent with mine. Since we were talking about baptism that night, I’ll start with that. Lutherans believe in infant baptism. Being raised with a Lutheran father and a Catholic mother, and even being baptized in infancy myself, I’d pretty much have every reason to believe the same thing…but I don’t.
The thing with infant baptism is that they are not conscious of what the baptism is, nor are they doing it of their own free will. I think, although I have no real evidence of it, that the concept of infant baptism evolved from technicalities in their doctrine. Let’s see if I can stipulate a theoretical chain of logic for it: It starts with the concept of Original Sin. All people are born with a huge sin on their shoulders already, due to accountability for the fall of Adam and Eve, our ancestors. We are not born saved. Therefore, we must find salvation. One of the requirements for salvation is baptism. We are ALL born unsaved, therefore we must ALL be baptized, but baptism isn’t what saves you, it’s the faith behind the baptism.
Does that all make sense so far? Now it gets a little trickier. The following responses in quotations are something I documented the vicar saying, so hopefully I’m as accurate as possible. I didn’t document
him to make him sound ridiculous. I did it so I wouldn’t put words in his mouth.The question is raised: what about babies? Do they need to be baptized, too? Everybody needs to be saved so babies must also be baptized. If baptism is worthless without faith, then how are babies saved? The vicar said “faith can come before baptism, even at infancy.” So how could an infant reasonably acquire faith? “The Word of God gives them faith. Just hearing the Word of God [can enable them to have faith and be truly baptized].” So what happens if the baby is not baptized before it dies? Doctrine indicates that the baby will not go to heaven. To me, that sounds far-fetched. It sounds like an answer somebody makes up when they are put on the spot. Their doctrine has talked them into a corner and now they can’t reason their way out. The have to say unbaptized babies go to hell because the will not consider that maybe their doctrine might require re-evaluation. Remember, this is only a theory.
Two other things I don’t agree with are the literal interpretation of the Second Coming of Christ and the literal interpretation of Christ’s flesh and blood being the bread and wine. Those I disagree with for
obvious reasons.
Pointing out my disagreements, I would now like to say that just because i disagree with something doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Also, just because I believe something doesn’t mean that it IS true. My opinion is not what confirms validity.
There were a lot of things I wanted to talk about at the study, but I decided not to. Although the vicar did welcome other opinions
different from Lutheran beliefs, I was under the impression that he meant “as long as they are still Christian”. A lot of times, I was wanting to point out correlations with other religions to strengthen
the Christian perspective. When they were asking whether being Baptized was a singular event or whether it is a lifelong event, I wanted to say that Baptism was similar to stream entry enlightenment
found in Buddhism. The actual event of Baptism represents a starting point….or at least it did to me. It is a landmark, but it brings with it an initial experience of grace, and it is almost impossible to
regress from. It changes your mind. Characterized by visions and charismatic energy, it usually follows “the dark night”. Don’t confuse stream entry with Enlightenment. This kind will not bring Nirvana.
Anywho, I didn’t feel it was my place yet, since it was my first time at the meeting. Actually, I don’t think it would ever be appropriate to bring it up there because I felt they might be offended regardless
of my best intentions. I was also wanting to bring up correlations with other denominations with in Christianity, but a more illogical side of me thought I should hold off because even though the vicar said it was fine to mention non-Lutheran interpretations, it was just a formality.
I’m choosing to go back to the bible study not only because it was enriching, but because I disagree with some of the doctrine. Although I disagree with some aspects, it comes from a denomination that I
respect. It will help me to see things from other perspectives other than my own, and it keeps challenging my beliefs in a healthy way.
Boy, I’m drained now.